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IRC discussion. Moving this topic to the portal talk.
[16:29] <Hamaryns> Hi, the interface for nl-be says you should use vls instead. That is bullshit, vls is a dialect in West-Flanders, nl-be is Dutch spoken in Belgium, there is a big difference. Who can change that? [16:29] <Hamaryns> Furthermore, nl-be should have default fallback nl. [16:30] <siebrand> Hamaryns: hi. Strong words. From it I read that you disagree with the current ISO 639-3, is that correct? See http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=vls [16:30] <siebrand> Hamaryns: It may be that 'vls' is being misused in the Wikimedia universe for something completely different, but that doesn't make what you say true. [16:31] <siebrand> Hamaryns: In translatewiki.net nl-be is only used for one product, being FreeCol. [16:42] <Hamaryns> siebrand: hm, interesting, last time I checked Ethnologue only included West-Vlaams under vls. But that is a while ago. [16:42] <Hamaryns> Which makes you’re right [16:42] <Hamaryns> Also, last time I checked, the vls messages really were dialectal West-Vlaams. Terrible, really. [16:43] <Hamaryns> But why not use nl-be for other projects? I have nl-be as my prefered language for the Wiktionary interface, for example. [16:43] <Hamaryns> And from time to time you do see a message which feels very ‘Hollands’. [16:44] <Hamaryns> all right, I used to have nl-be, but it is not available [16:46] <siebrand> Hamaryns: nl-be isn't a MediaWiki localisation code in MediaWiki proper - as said, we only have it at twn because it pre-existed in FreeCol. [16:47] <Hamaryns> hm, allright then [16:48] <Hamaryns> still: why not? [16:48] <Hamaryns> shouldn’t be a problem if you set nl as default fallback [17:06] <siebrand> Hamaryns: no one has given a convincing reason of introducing a localisation for 'standard' Flemmish yet. If there is a Dutch/nl message that is hard to understand for Dutch speaking people living in Belgium, I think we should first try to resolve that in the nl locale. [17:07] <siebrand> Hamaryns: so if you find any, please address them at [[Portal_talk:Nl]] and I'll definitely join the discussion. [17:08] <Hamaryns> ACK [17:08] <Hamaryns> bye [17:08] <siebrand> Hamaryns: or fix them yourself with a comment that explains, etc.