The Alphabet used in Dobruja

Hello, there is a Latin alphabet used by the Nogay Tatars in Dobruja which is also official by UDTTMR (Democratic Union of Tatar Turkish Muslims of Romania). There are also books printed with this alphabet. There are using it also in Social Media, Website, YouTube etc. Here are some links:

Website: http://uniuneatatara.ro/en/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/udttmruniuneatatara/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/udttmroficial/?_se_imp=2JlALzFIx93azMr2F

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/UDTTMRUniuneaT%C4%83tar%C4%83

Here is the alphabet showing and explaining by a woman (Noğayşa/Tatarşa): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9lCsBdQBTs

You can also contact with them, you need to look it in the Website there are some possibilities.

It seems to use another variant based on the Romanian alphabet, with breve signs over vowels, dotted i (typical of Turkic languages), and comma below some consonnants (instead of cedillas, typical of Romanian orthography).

Here is the alphabet shown: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1795600770673670&set=ma-_-_-me-_-_-%C5%9Fa-_-_-ta-_-_-qirimtatartiliuyrenemiztatarlar-tatars-%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%80-tata

Here is saying that there was a print problem and the letter ğ is written as ǧ: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php/?fbid=1793764244190656

This can also explain that the substitution of the cedilla (used in Turkish) by the comma below (used in Romanian). So Nogay writers in Romania have adapted to what they commonly find in Romania. May be Nogay writers living in Turkey use the other way (with cedillas). Breves are used in Cyrillic (in Crimean Tatar). All this confirms that Amir has made a false assumption confusing Nogay with Crimean Tatar, that he may have seen and known where he lives in Russia (near Moscow, where there may also be Crimean Tatars living there and their language is taught in Russian schools or universities).

Hello, can I beg you to discuss this problem with him and show that this is a confusing? Because this is more than 6 months ago and we just need to end this thing. He can also help for us, he can discuss with us the latin alphabet. We have many sources about using of latin alphabet. Even when he wants we can use the dobrujan latin alphabet for/because better sources of UDTTMR.

I can't do anything with him. Only aniother site admin can do something, such as Nike, but Nike trusts him for many things (but he could still order take over his decision, if there was more people other than just you and me to support this unblocking. You found some people in Romania, may be you can contact them and ask for their support (they may register here, or create their own paper signed by their university department, stating clearly that the language has official support in Romania and has developed an approved orthography

You may may also try to find contacts in Turkey, but may be they have developed a slightly similar orthography, that accepts a few other Latin variants that are easier for them to type, such as the dotted/undotted i distinction in Turkey, vs. the distinction by soft-dotted i and i with caron in Romania (or i with breve, if mimic'ing the cyrillic i with breve probably used in Bulgaria and Ukraine, and certainly used for Crimean Tatar in Russia).

You need a clear statement that Nogay is NOT the same language as Crimean Tatar (which a few years ago was still written using Ukrainian conventions in Crimea, before the Russian annexion) as it has been separated since long: Nogay speakers went into contacts in Romania and Bulgaria with Turkish and Greek people along the western coasts of the Black Sea (most Greeks however relocated from Turkey to Greece when Greece became indendant of the Ottoman Empire which was also occupying the region; Romania and Bulgaria gained their independant later but have kept stronger links with Turkey, so Nogay and Greek people could have stayed there, including within Ukraine while it was part of the former USSR), and have also modified significantly the language without influence from the Russian language, and have probably restored old ties with Turkish.

But the main problem with that Nogay language is highly tied to the political situation in Southern Ukraine with the current war. This could have the indirect effect of freezing everything with a de facto statu quo. However this should not affect Nogay used in South-Eastern Bulgaria, Eastern Romania and North-Western Turkey. About one century has past since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, and about 30 years since the end of USSR. Lot of native people in that region have moved and joined a larger diaspora spread over multiple countries, suing different scritps or alphabetic conventions, so the Nogay language could have felt difficulties to preserve a stable orthography. But at least in Romania, the situation is clear now (and I don't know what Nogays in Bulgaria do: do they still use the Cyrillic alphabet there, esepcially since both Bulgaria and Romania are in the EU, where the Latin script is predominant, only Bulgaria (possibly later Macedonia and parts of Serbia could join; but Serbia is also in transition to use the Latin script in most of its regions, and it already has a very stable standard for transliterations).

Nogay writers could also develop a good and stable translieration scheme if their people agree between their use in Ukraine, Bulgaria, Romania and Turkey, or accept some equivalences between variants of the Latin alphabet. At least for the Latin alphabet, it should be based on an agreemetn between Turkey and Romania, but I've not since any official sources in Turkey, given that most Nogay speakers in Turkey now have transitioned to use standard Turkish. Only Romania seems to have formally recognized the Nogay minority (that is called locally "Romanian Tatars" and not "Crimean Tatars" like in Russia (and in Ukraine, including Crimea, while it was part of USSR and for another 30 years since its independance before the Russian annexion of Crimea). in Ukraine the Nogay people may also be divided now between pro-Russia and anti-Russia. It's not easy for minories to preserve their language notably when they live in troubled regions and have seen their frontiers changing multiple times and recurrent wars. But the best they can do is to develop a standard that allows keeping easy communications eevn if they have to use different scripts or variants of their alphabets.

Hello, today will the block end in Portal:nog. Is there a possibility that we can return it gain to this look?